I’ve been listening to atheist debates again the past few days, and I am finding myself wondering at the HUGE ASS disconnect there is between the intelligentsia’s idea of what religion is and what they believe, and the general population’s idea of what religion is and what they believe. 

Most of the theists who get in these debates have a vastly, irrevocably different set of beliefs to the general population, I end up sitting here thinking ‘what are you trying to prove?’ 

So many of them talk about their God/Gods as beings that have almost no resemblance to the God/Gods I have had described to me by normal theists I have met or known. So many of the debater’s versions of God are  lesser, or neutered versions of the God/Gods believed in by everyone else, almost as if they’re trying to hide the fact that they believe something science can say very little about. 

It makes me wonder what they must think of the general population’s beliefs. They espouse to know the Holy books better, the scriptures better, to understand what they’ve read better, to essentially believe better. And what does this say about everyone else? 

It just makes me wonder. 

~M

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Debunking Christianity: The Universe Disproves Theism


In a recent debate on “The Status of God in the 21st Century”, Justin Schieber from Reasonable Doubts offers a few unique arguments against theism, including an interesting cosmological argument for atheism.

USCIS Retracts Request for Evidence of Religious Status; Margaret Doughty Awarded Citizenship


A Year in Jail for Not Believing in God?


In Kentucky, a homeland security law requires the state’s citizens to acknowledge the security provided by the Almighty God—or risk 12 months in prison.

The law and its sponsor, state representative Tom Riner, have been the subject of controversy since the law first surfaced in 2006, yet the Kentucky state Supreme Court has refused to review its constitutionality, despite clearly violating the First Amendment’s separation of church and state.
"This is one of the most egregiously and breathtakingly unconstitutional actions by a state legislature that I’ve ever seen," said Edwin Kagin, the legal director of American Atheists’, a national organization focused defending the civil rights of atheists. American Atheists’ launched a lawsuit against the law in 2008, which won at the Circuit Court level, but was then overturned by the state Court of Appeals.
The law states, “The safety and security of the Commonwealth cannot be achieved apart from reliance upon Almighty God as set forth in the public speeches and proclamations of American Presidents, including Abraham Lincoln’s historic March 30, 1863, presidential proclamation urging Americans to pray and fast during one of the most dangerous hours in American history, and the text of President John F. Kennedy’s November 22, 1963, national security speech which concluded: “For as was written long ago: ‘Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.’”
The law requires that plaques celebrating the power of the Almighty God be installed outside the state Homeland Security building—and carries a criminal penalty of up to 12 months in jail if one fails to comply. The plaque’s inscription begins with the assertion, “The safety and security of the Commonwealth cannot be achieved apart from reliance upon Almighty God.”
Tom Riner, a Baptist minister and the long-time Democratic state representative, sponsored the law.
“The church-state divide is not a line I see,” Riner told The New York Timesshortly after the law was first challenged in court. “What I do see is an attempt to separate America from its history of perceiving itself as a nation under God.”
A practicing Baptist minister, Riner is solely devoted to his faith—even when that directly conflicts with his job as state representative. He has often been at the center of unconstitutional and expensive controversies throughout his 26 years in office. In the last ten years, for example, the state has spent more than $160,000 in string of losing court cases against the American Civil Liberties Union over the state’s decision to display the Ten Commandments in public buildings, legislation that Riner sponsored.
Although the Kentucky courts have yet to strike down the law, some judges have been explicit about its unconstitutionality.
"Kentucky’s law is a legislative finding, avowed as factual, that the Commonwealth is not safe absent reliance on Almighty God. Further, (the law) places a duty upon the executive director to publicize the assertion while stressing to the public that dependence upon Almighty God is vital, or necessary, in assuring the safety of the commonwealth,” wrote Judge Ann O’Malley Shake in Court of Appeals’ dissenting opinion. 
This rational was in the minority, however, as the Court of Appeals reversed the lower courts’ decision that the law was unconstitutional.
Last week, American Atheists submitted a petition to the U.S. Supreme Court to review the law.
Riner, meanwhile, continues to abuse the state representative’s office, turning it into a pulpit for his God-fearing message.
"The safety and security of the state cannot be achieved apart from recognizing our dependence upon God," Riner recently t old Fox News.
"We believe dependence on God is essential. … What the founding fathers stated and what every president has stated, is their reliance and recognition of Almighty God, that’s what we’re doing," he said.
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Excuse me, Kentucky? Seriously? 
~Mooglets

The day I saw 248 girls suffering genital mutilation


It’s 9.30am on a Sunday, and the mood inside the school building in Bandung, Indonesia, is festive. Mothers in headscarves and bright lipstick chat and eat coconut cakes. Javanese music thumps from an assembly hall. There are 400 people crammed into the primary school’s ground floor. It’s hot, noisy and chaotic, and almost everyone is smiling.

Twelve-year-old Suminah is not. She looks like she wants to punch somebody. Under her white hijab, which she has yanked down over her brow like a hoodie, her eyes have the livid, bewildered expression of a child who has been wronged by people she trusted. She sits on a plastic chair, swatting away her mother’s efforts to placate her with a party cup of milk and a biscuit. Suminah is in severe pain. An hour earlier, her genitals were mutilated with scissors as she lay on a school desk.

I’m not posting the whole thing, because fuck.

Warning for graphic details about FGM and what is basically Child Abuse. 

It may not have originated as an Islamic practice, and it may not be something from the Koran - but the Islamic government in power in Indonesia is legitimising FGM and allowing it to continue, it’s just tied in too deeply now. 

~Mooglets

Scandal in Ireland as woman dies in Galway 'after being denied abortion'


Further details on the Galway death.

Savita Halappanavar, who was 17 weeks pregnant, died of septicaemia a week after presenting with back pain on 21 October at University hospital in Galway, where she was found to be miscarrying.

After the 31-year-old dentist was told that she was miscarrying, her husband reportedly said that she had asked for a medical termination a number of times over a three day period, during which she was in severe pain.

But he said these requests were denied because a foetal heartbeat was still present and they were told at one point: “This is a Catholic country.”

Calls for X Case legislation after woman denied an abortion dies in Galway hospital


Alternative title: FUCKING CATHOLICS

Savita Halappanavar had originally presented to the hospital on 21 October complaining of severe back pain. She was found to be undergoing a miscarriage; however, the foetus remained inside her body and a foetal heartbeat was detected.  As Savita became ill and her condition deteriorated over the following days, she reportedly repeatedly asked for the foetus to be removed.

However, the foetus was not removed until 24 October – almost three days from when Savita was first admitted to the hospital – after the foetal heartbeat had stopped.

Immediately afterwards Savita was brought to a high dependency unit in the hospital suffering from septicaemia. She died four days later on Sunday 28 October.

[My bolding]

The woman herself wasn’t Catholic, so in a move so hypocritical I’m getting whiplash just thinking about it, HELLO forcing your beliefs on other’s!

~Mooglets

Prominent Saudi preacher tortures five-year-old daughter to death


A five-year old Saudi girl has died after she was tortured by her father, described as a “prominent” religious scholar who often preaches on numerous satellite television channels.

Lamaa breathed her last breath in an intensive care unit of a hospital in the Saudi capital Riyadh a few days ago, after weeks of suffering from broken arms, a skull fracture and head bruises, her mother told Al Arabiya.

“He used all sorts of torture and abuse against Lamaa,” the girl’s mother said, now divorced from her brutal husband.

Jesus FUCKING christ

Is this guys name going to be released ever? And his fucked up ‘reasons/excuses’? 

What was she - possessed perhaps? SHE WAS FUCKING FIVE. 

~Mooglets

Religiosity Plummets In Ireland And Declines Worldwide; Atheism On The Rise


Rocked in recent years by sex-abuse scandals and crises in leadership, the Catholic Church in the Republic of Ireland has been struggling to keep its members close.

But this week,a new global survey on faith and atheism has revealed that the crisis of faith in Ireland may be much worse than previously thought.

According to the poll released by WIN-Gallup International, the traditionally Catholic country has seen one of the steepest drops worldwide in religiosity.

Girl killed in Pakistani-administered Kashmir acid attack


A mother and father in Pakistani-administered Kashmir have been arrested for murdering their 15-year-old daughter by dousing her with acid “in the name of an honour”, police say.

They say it is one of the first such cases of its kind in the region.

Honour killings happen when mostly male family members believe the victim has brought dishonour to their community.

The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan reported 943 women were killed in honour killings last year.

That represented an increase of more than 100 from 2010.

But such happenings are rare in parts of Kashmir under the control of Pakistan.

Police say that the incident took place in a remote village in the southern district of Kotli. They say that the case was brought to their attention by the couple’s eldest daughter.

It will not be clear until Friday - when the parents are due in court - if they admit or deny murder charges.

'Suspicious'

Local police officer Raja Tahir Ayub told the BBC that the girl’s father became enraged when he saw his daughter “looking at two boys” riding on a motorcycle outside their home on Monday.

Police say that the parents suspected she was having illicit relations with one of the pair.

"He took his daughter inside, beat her up and then poured acid over her with the help of his wife," Mr Ayub said.

Police say that that the couple did not take their daughter to hospital until the next morning, and she succumbed to her injuries on Tuesday evening.

The head of the state-run district hospital in Kotli - Muhammad Jahangir - confirmed the death.

He said that the girl was brought to hospital in a serious condition with more than 35% burns.

"There was no way she could survive," he said.

Police say that the dead girl’s married elder sister informed them of the alleged incident on Wednesday morning.

They say that she became suspicious when her parents did not allow mourners to see the face of the dead girl before she was buried - otherwise a normal practise in Kashmiri Muslim society.

In March the government of Pakistani-administered Kashmir made acid attacks a criminal offence punishable with life imprisonment.

BBCNews

OMG, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you

~Mooglets

Paul Ryan promises Focus on the Family that he will fight gay equality


' During an interview with Focus on the Family president Jim Daly, Paul Ryan reassured the anti-gay group that a Romney-Ryan administration will fiercely oppose gay rights. Focus on the Family and its founder James Dobson have a long history of promoting anti-gay policies and ex-gay therapy, and earned a shout-out from Romney earlier this week while campaigning in Colorado, where it is headquartered.'

Continue article at above link.

~Mooglets

Taliban Demands Unbiased Coverage of Its Attempted Murder of a 14-Year-Old Girl


' You wouldn't believe the lamestream media's bias. You shoot one 14-year-old girl in the head and you'll never hear the end of it. So goes the lament of Pakistan's Taliban insurgency following a spate of bad press in mainstream Pakistani outlets related to the jihadists' failed assassination attempt of Malala Yousafzai, a young blogger who dared protest the Taliban's ban on educating girls. Now the Taliban are plotting terror strikes on TV stations and other media organizations, but local newspapers refuse to stay silent.'

Excuse the formatting, on my phone again.

~Mooglets