“The great irony is that the surest guarantor of religious freedom is the promotion of secularism. Theocracy and religious freedom are mutually exclusive. It is in the countries where there is light between church and state that believers enjoy the most freedom.”

(John Moore, National Post, Canada)
“People have the right to believe anything they choose, but not to impose that belief upon others. Protesting otherwise is merely trying to defend bigotry with pseudo-intellectual semantics.”

David Robert Grimes, Irish Times
“The Catholic church has done more than Richard Dawkins, Ian Paisley, humanist societies and Marxist materialists put together to discredit the whole idea of organised religion, and there will be many who feel that it deserves our heartfelt thanks for its endeavours.”

Terry Eagleton, Red Pepper

Pope or Hitler?


This is a response to the Pope’s claim that the Nazi movement was atheist. When it was nothing of the sort.

Even in our own lifetime, we can recall how Britain and her leaders stood against a Nazi tyranny that wished to eradicate God from society and denied our common humanity to many, especially the Jews, who were thought unfit to live. I also recall the regime’s attitude to Christian pastors and religious who spoke the truth in love, opposed the Nazis and paid for that opposition with their lives. As we reflect on the sobering lessons of the atheist extremism of the twentieth century, let us never forget how the exclusion of God, religion and virtue from public life leads ultimately to a truncated vision of man and of society and thus to a “reductive vision of the person and his destiny”

Quotes are from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler’s_religious_beliefshttp://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler.htm

The point of this is not to imply that the Pope is or ever was a Nazi but instead to simply imply that he is either purposely trying to associate atheism with Nazism or he is a complete idiot.

A fun and interesting little device. 

Have a go. 

~Mooglets

“Whenever I hear the phrase “militant secularism”, I know that someone, somewhere, isn’t getting their own way.”

Joan Smith, Independent on Sunday
“Top-down and institutional religion is in decline. Trying to restore or maintain the cultural and political dominance of religious institutions in what is now a mixed-belief ‘spiritual and secular’ society is a backward-looking approach.”

Simon Barrow, Ekklesia
“The Catholic Church is upset because they feel like the government is trying to impose its will on them? Twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, for over 2,000 years, the Catholic Church has been imposing its will on peoples, governments and civilization in general.”

Dagmar Bergan, The Commercial Appeal
“There is a suspicion in Britain that when politicians invoke religion they are saying you cannot be a proper Christian unless you agree with me. British people don’t react to that in the way Americans do.”

Alastair Campbell, Financial Times
“It’s precisely because of the predominance of secularism in the UK that has allowed the likes of Warsi to hold the office she does. To throw religion back in the face of secularism is to deny the tolerance that is the point of secularism. She needs to rethink.”

Comment posted on BBC thread
“Religion can have a role in political debate, but its adherents must stop trying to gain special privileges.”

Ian Dunt