White House says Obama’s LGBT executive order will not provide religious exemption

Gay Marriage Stirs Backlash as Businesses Assert Religion

sidmonarch596 said: Hey! This is a bit off topic, but there is a bit of atheism involved. My mum has recently told me she is bisexual, and I am trying to help her. I think homosexuality is just fine. I'm an atheist. Alas, her mum sister and just about everybody in our family is Christian. I tell my mum that if people can't accept her for her, then she shouldn't associate with them. Can you help?

This is a rough one, has she told them yet?

If she has and they reacted badly, I’m very sorry :/ If she hasn’t, she still has time to test the waters and maybe even start the swaying of their opinions if they’re bad ones.

Really though, you are correct. If they reject her when she tells them, and abuse her because of their religious opinion, she should cut them off. It’s hard, very hard, to just cut family off though. They love her, obviously, and are very likely scared of the religious consequences of her being ‘different’.

(As a queer person, and just a good person in general, I think this is bulshit, if you love someone, you love someone, and something like sexual orientation should not change that, regardless of religious beliefs.)

So, if your mom does end up getting a hard time from her family, she should cut them off - even if only temporarily - to get some time without them barraging her with their opinions. It may also give them time to re-think said opinions. She does not need negativity in her life, especially from family members.

She’s not evil, she’s not going to hell, she is still the exact same woman they all knew before, she just now has revealed an aspect of herself that wasn’t public yet.

If you want something to tell them, go the route of ‘Jesus preached love, not hate’ and ‘the passages that mention homosexuality are interpreted WILDLY differently from church to church’ etc

Here’s some places to start reading:

an ex-christian on homosexuality and christianity

huge paper by the religious tolerence group about interpreting the Bible passages that mention same-gender sexual activities

an article about gay evangelicals pressing others to change their views on lgbt

And importantly:

Gay Christian Network

A place where she can find support and a community to talk to

I hope all of this helps.

If the followers have any advice or links or support, please get in touch.


Obama should say no to a religion-based exemption on hiring discrimination

Last month President Obama announced that he was drafting an executive order prohibiting federal contractors — which employ about 20% of the American workforce — from discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity. But now the president is being beseeched to exempt religious employers from the order. He should decline the invitation.

Boycott launched against openly gay St Louis Rams player Michael Sam, by Christian lobbyist Jack Burkman

Read: Boo hoo, my views of the world are being rightly pointed out as fucking stupid, backwards and harmful, EVERYONE ELSE MUST DO AS I SAY, STOP LETTING HOMO’S HAVE LIVES, STOP LETTING THEM BE REAL PEOPLE, STOP TELLING ME I CAN’T TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, NO STOP IT, LISTEN TO ME, RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH 


Mississippi passes Arizona-style religious freedom bill

Bishop wants to withhold communion from Catholic MPs who vote against doctrine

“There is no more mileage in this issue [same-sex marriage] for the Catholic Church, and the sensible course would be to put it on the backburner with the heat turned low — to make peace with the gay world and move on.”

Editorial, The Tablet

Vatican Says Gay Couples Live In ‘A Different Reality,’ Same-Sex Marriage A False ‘Utopia’

The Vatican is taking issue with the fight for marriage equality in Europe and around the world, saying that same-sex couples live in a “different reality” and continue to chase the “utopia” of equality.

L’Osservatore Romano, the official newspaper of the Holy See, printed a front-page editorial on Monday titled “Marriage Is Not a Contract,” claiming, according to a Google translation of the text, that same-sex couples live in some sort of “different reality” where they believe the foundations of society will not quake if an “utopia” of equality, which “caused such damage in the twentieth century,” is achieved.

Via Think Progress: 

Saying that marriage between a woman and a man is equal to that between two homosexuals is, in fact, a denial of the truth that affects one of the basic structures of human society, the family. We cannot base a society on these foundations without then paying a very high price as happened in the past when there was an attempt to achieve total economic and social equality. Why repeat the same mistake and chase after an unattainable utopia?

The Vatican’s editorial condemns same-sex couples adopting children, stating that this will only lead to “new forms of exploitation” in science, according to a Google translation.

The article also criticizes a piece that appeared in the French Catholic weekly Temoignage Chretien, which endorsed the country’s controversial gay marriage bill, according to Queerty. The Vatican says the French article seeks to only promote what is trendy, reports The Hindu Business Line. “Being Catholic is about much more than embracing fashionable cultural standpoints,” writes the Vatican.

The editorial follows Pope Benedict XVI’s declaration that same-sex marriage goes against nature and threatens justice and peace.

"There is…a need to acknowledge and promote the natural structure of marriage as the union of a man and a woman in the face of attempts to make it juridically equivalent to radically different types of union," he said during his World Day of Peace 2013 address Friday. "Such attempts actually harm and help to destabilize marriage, obscuring its specific nature and its indispensable role in society. These principles are not truths of faith, nor are they simply a corollary of the right to religious freedom. They are inscribed in human nature itself, accessible to reason and thus common to all humanity."

On Sunday, gay rights activists peacefully picketed in St. Peter’s Square in Vatican City during the pope’s weekly prayers to proest his anti-gay comments. An online campaign featuring photos of LGBT people with the phrase “I am a threat to peace” was also launched in Italy and has already posted thousands of images to its Facebook page.


US Radio host: Gays aren’t human so aren’t protected by the US constitution

An American Christian radio host wholast week said that same-sex marriage encourages children to have gay sexhas now said that as she believes humans aren’t naturaly homosexual, gays aren’t ‘people’ and shouldn’t be protected under the definition of a person.

Linda Harvey, a radio host with an Ohio based Christian radio station WRFD asked her Mission America listeners: “Why should the equal protection argument be made in favour of homosexual behavior, which is changeable?  People are not naturally homosexual, so the definition of ‘person’ in the Fourteenth Amendment is being twisted to make this assumption.

“‘Person’ should be understood based on historic, beneficial, or at least neutral and fact-based traits; it should not be twisted to incorporate behavior that most religions and most cultures have said a firm ‘no’ to. 


Read more at the above linked article.

This woman is making me physically sick with her twisted comments. 


Bryan Fischer Believes Exorcisms Can Cure Homosexuality

'FISCHER: —that using spiritual weapons of our warfare according to the New Testament can be effective. We know that people can get delivered from homosexual behavior. The former president of the American Psychological Association, Nathan Cummings —he’s seen that happen in his own private clinical practice. He’s seen people get free of homosexual behavior and change their sexual orientation, so it certainly is possible. There may be spiritual factors at work. If there are, then the power of the Gospel, the name of Jesus Christ, the power of the Holy Spirit can be of enormous help.'

There’s a video of the interview at the link.


Paul Ryan promises Focus on the Family that he will fight gay equality

' During an interview with Focus on the Family president Jim Daly, Paul Ryan reassured the anti-gay group that a Romney-Ryan administration will fiercely oppose gay rights. Focus on the Family and its founder James Dobson have a long history of promoting anti-gay policies and ex-gay therapy, and earned a shout-out from Romney earlier this week while campaigning in Colorado, where it is headquartered.'

Continue article at above link.


Christian groups finds gay agenda in an anti-bullying day

On Mix It Up at Lunch Day, schoolchildren around the country are encouraged to hang out with someone they normally might not speak to.

The program, started 11 years ago by the Southern Poverty Law Center and now in more than 2,500 schools, was intended as a way to break up cliques and prevent bullying.

But this year, the American Family Association, a conservative evangelical group, has called the project “a nationwide push to promote the homosexual lifestyle in public schools” and is urging parents to keep their children home from school Oct. 30, the day most of the schools plan to participate this year.

The charges, raised in an email to supporters this month, have caused a handful of schools to cancel this year’s event and has caught organizers off guard.

"I was surprised that they completely lied about what Mix It Up Day is," said Maureen Costello, the director of the center’s Teaching Tolerance project, which organizes the program. "It was a cynical, fear-mongering tactic."

The swirl around Mix It Up at Lunch Day reflects a deeper battle between the Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil-rights group founded 41 years ago in Montgomery, Ala., and the American Family Association, a Bible-based cultural watchdog organization in Tupelo, Miss. The association says its mission is to fight what it calls the “increasing ungodliness” in America.

The law center recently added the group to its national list of active hate groups, which also includes neo-Nazis, black separatists and Holocaust deniers.

Association leaders, in return, have gone on the offensive, calling the law center a hate group for oppressing Christian students and claiming its aim is to shut down groups that oppose homosexuality.

"The reality is we are not a hate group. We are a truth group," said Bryan Fischer, director of issue analysis for the association. "We tell the truth about homosexual behavior."

Although the suggested activities for Mix It Up at Lunch Day do not expressly address gay and lesbian students, the law center itself promotes equal treatment for gays and lesbians and that philosophy then informs the school program, he said.

"Anti-bullying legislation is exactly the same," Fischer said. "It’s just another thinly veiled attempt to promote the homosexual agenda. No one is in favor of anyone getting bullied for any reason, but these anti-bullying policies become a mechanism for punishing Christian students who believe that homosexual behavior is not something that should be normalized."

The program is not about sexual orientation but rather about breaking up social cliques, which are especially evident in a school cafeteria, Costello said.

In some schools, cliques are socio-economic. In others they are ethnic or religious or based on sexual orientation. By giving students a way to mix with other students, self-imposed social barriers can be broken down and bullying can be curbed, she said.

"Many of the targets of bullying are kids who are either gay or are perceived as gay," she said.

But the idea that the program is intended as homosexual indoctrination is simply wrong, she added.

"We’ve become used to the idea of lunatic fringe attacks," she said, "but this one was complete misrepresentation."

Parents who are on the American Family Association email list were encouraged to keep their children home on that day and to call school administrators to tell them why.

By Friday, about 200 schools had canceled, Costello said. But exactly why was unclear. Of 20 schools that had canceled and were contacted by The , only one chose to comment.

The Chattahoochee County Education Center in Cusseta, Ga., canceled because teachers were too busy trying to meet basic state teaching requirements, Principal Tabatha Walton said.

"The decision had nothing to do with taking a position on gay rights," she said. "We support diversity."

Although parents did complain to Kevin Brady, the head of the Avon Grove Charter School in rural Pennsylvania, the school is still planning to hold Mix it Up at Lunch Day for its 1,600 students.

Students will each be assigned a number and then paired up by school officials. The school has a large population of special-needs students who can feel isolated and thus benefit greatly from the program, Brady said.

The school started it a few years ago, inspired, in part, by the shootings at Columbine High School in Colorado and examples of bully-related violence that surfaced in schools around the country.

He said the email sent by the association described a program that had “absolutely no resemblance to what we do.” Once parents understood how the program worked, they decided not keep their children home that day, he said.

"I think they feel they have been taken for a bit of a ride," he said.


What a load of horse shit.