Faith-Healing Parents Arrested for Death of Second Child : DNews


2nd Child of Pa. Couple Dies After Only Praying


A Philadelphia couple — serving 10 years’ probation for the 2009 death of their toddler after they turned to prayer instead of a doctor — has violated their probation now that another of their children has died.

Herbert and Catherine Schaible belong to a fundamentalist Christian church that believes in faith-healing.

Philadelphia Judge Benjamin Lerner said at a hearing they violated the most important condition of their probation: to seek medical care for their remaining children.

Authorities have yet to file criminal charges in the death of the 8-month-old boy last week, after he suffered with diarrhea and breathing problems for days. But charges could be filed once authorities pinpoint how the baby died.

The couple is on probation after pleading guilty to involuntary manslaughter in 2011 in the death of their 2-year-old son, Kent, from pneumonia.

WHAT THE FUCK SORT OF PEOPLE DON’T LEARN WHEN THEIR FIRST CHILD DIES.

~Mooglets

Church Of England Accused Of 'Dishonesty' In Prayer Survey Findings - The Huffington Post


I am in no way surprised by this.

Go. Read. Rant.

~Mooglets

Creationist stakes $10,000 on contest between Bible and evolution


Creator of Literal Genesis Trial believes people who argue in favor of evolution are at a scientific disadvantage

Californiacreationist is offering a $10,000 challenge to anyone who can prove in front of a judge that science contradicts the literal interpretation of the book of Genesis.

Dr Joseph Mastropaolo, who says he has set up the contest, the Literal Genesis Trial, in the hope of improving the quality of arguments between creationists and evolutionists, has pledged to put $10,000 of his own money into an escrow account before the debate. His competitor would be expected to do the same. The winner would take the $20,000 balance.

The argument would not be made in a formal court, but under an alternative dispute resolution model known as a minitrial. Mastropaolo said he would present the argument in favor of a literal interpretation of the creation story once he had found a willing scientist to argue that a non-literal interpretation of Genesis is more scientific.

“They [evolutionists] are not stupid people, they are bright, but they are bright enough to know there is no scientific evidence they can give in a minitrial,” Mastropaolo said.

A minitrial differs from a regular trial because it does not need to be held in a courthouse and does not require the presence of traditional court figures. Mastropaolo plans to have a bailiff and court reporter in attendance, along with the judge. Contest rules state that evidence must be scientific, which means it is “objective, valid, reliable and calibrated”.

Mastropaolo believes thatevolutioncannot be proved scientifically. “It turns out that there is nothing in the universe [that] is evolving, everything is devolving, everything is going in the opposite direction,” he said.

Mastropaolo started making public arguments in favor ofcreationismabout 13 years ago, after reading an article about evolution in the newspaper. He has a PhD in kinesiology and taught biomechanics and physiology at a California university for more than 25 years. He is now a contributing writer at theCreation Science Hall of Fame, which is collaborating with him for the minitrial. The Creation Science Hall of Fame is a website, launched in February 2012, that honors those who have made contributions to creation science.

A majority of scientists disavow creationism, buta June 2012 Gallup pollshowed that 46% of Americans believed in a literal interpretation of the biblical version of creation. Legislation to allow students to be taught religious versions of the creation of life is currently beingconsidered in four states.

The Literal Genesis Trial contest would be held in a courthouse in Santa Ana, California and Mastropaolo has said he will create a list of potential superior court judges to decide the case. The participants would have to agree on a judge. Mastropaolo said that he hopes the trials can improve future debates between evolutionists and creationists by addressing the issue in a legal and scientific way.

“The evolutionists thereafter could read that transcript and make their case a bit stronger on the next one they contend against and we can do the same,” Mastropaolo said. “We can read the transcript and not have have to go through the same process over and over and over again without any let up, without any resolution.”

Guardian

Oh wow. 

Let’s keep a tally of how many times he turns down real evidence on some goal-moving stupid technicality. 

But really. This guy should just be ignored. It’s obvious that he has literally no idea of what he’s talking about. For a real scientist to go and ‘debate’ this man, would put a veneer of respectability on him and his ‘evidence’. 

Which is, of course, what he wants.

~Mooglets

I love how this guy doesn’t get that Santa and the Easter Bunny aren’t even actually Judeo-Christian symbols. And I REALLY want to know how he thinks they ‘won’ the Battle For Christmas. 

A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away…

A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away…

The Pope, Pregnant Children, and Violence Against Girls and Women


This is pretty harrowing reading, with many mentions and links to articles about children who have been raped and consequently given birth, or been treated like absolute shit for getting abortions. 

Be warned, it’s not pretty. 

But over-all, yeah. I agree with it. The Pope is pretty much one of the worst scum of the Earth and he should stand trial. Him and his shitty organisation. 

~Mooglets

Hosts of the Atheist Experience cable access show in Austin hung up on a Christian caller over the weekend after he suggested that God might not stop the rape of a little girl because the victim was also “evil.”

A Christian viewer from Phoenix named Shane called in to Sunday’s show with the hopes of convincing host Matt Dillahunty and co-host Tracie Harris that the fact that even atheists had a “moral code” proved of the existence of God.

“Divine command theory, the religious proposition that God dictates morality is in fact immoral,” Dillahunty explained to the caller. “It forces you to sacrifice your humanity and pollutes your moral compass because you are stuck doing whatever this God supposedly says is good, whether or not it’s actually good. And we already know that there are, for example, commands in the Bible that are not morally correct.”

“I think you’re more moral than your God and you just haven’t figured it out yet,” Harris added.

“Why is God so immoral?” the caller asked.

“I don’t think that God exists but if we’re talking about the God character in Bible as God is represented, you know, it’s a pretty horrible, jealous, angry being that advocates slavery,” Dillahunty pointed out. “I don’t know why he’s that way. Maybe he’s just a dick.”

“You either have a God who sends child rapists to rape children or you have a God who simply watches it and says, ‘When you’re done, I’m going to punish you,’” Harris agreed. “If I could stop a person from raping a child, I would. That’s the difference between me and your God.”

“First of all, you portray that little girl as someone who’s innocent, she’s just as evil as you,” the caller shot back.

With that comment, Dillahunty disconnected the call.

“Goodbye, you piece of shit!” he exclaimed. “You know what? I was a better Christian than you when I was a Christian, and I still am.”

The entire the Atheist Experience broadcast is available here.

Watch this video from Atheist Experience, broadcast Jan. 6, 2013.

From RawStory and my favorite Atheist broadcast, Atheist Experience.

~Mooglets

Sixteen Christian worshipers crushed to death trying to get into a church service


’ One-hundred-twenty injured at religious event

The crowd of worshipers attempting to enter the Cidadela Desportiva stadium in Angola to attend a church service that was to be held by the Universal Church of the Kingdom of God, got out of control, causing stampede conditions that resulted in ten deaths and one-hundred-twenty injuries.

The church, founded in Brazil in 1977, has over eight million followers, and boasts a presence in most countries. The service was to be a vigil, but ended up in chaos. Among the daed are four children who were crushed at the gate.

News agency Jornal de Angola, quoted the Deputy Bishop of Angola, Ferner Batalha, commenting on the huge crowd, as stating,

“Our expectation was to have 70,000 people, but that was surpassed by far.”

Paulo Gaspar de Almeida stated,

“We confirm the death of 16 people, including four children, due to asphyxia, shoving and trampling of faithful at the entrance of Cidadela stadium.”

Almeida is the Deputy Commander-General of the Angolan police force.’

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http://www.goddiscussion.com/105993/sixteen-christian-worshipers-crushed-to-death-trying-to-get-into-a-church-service/

Sorry for the format, on my phone.

This is absolutely terrible.

~Mooglets

US Radio host: Gays aren’t human so aren’t protected by the US constitution


An American Christian radio host wholast week said that same-sex marriage encourages children to have gay sexhas now said that as she believes humans aren’t naturaly homosexual, gays aren’t ‘people’ and shouldn’t be protected under the definition of a person.

Linda Harvey, a radio host with an Ohio based Christian radio station WRFD asked her Mission America listeners: “Why should the equal protection argument be made in favour of homosexual behavior, which is changeable?  People are not naturally homosexual, so the definition of ‘person’ in the Fourteenth Amendment is being twisted to make this assumption.

“‘Person’ should be understood based on historic, beneficial, or at least neutral and fact-based traits; it should not be twisted to incorporate behavior that most religions and most cultures have said a firm ‘no’ to. 

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Read more at the above linked article.

This woman is making me physically sick with her twisted comments. 

~Mooglets

A very atheist Christmas


When people find out I’m an atheist, the question often comes up about what I do during the Christmas holidays. There is an assumption that atheists don’t ‘do Christmas,’ so they are surprised when I say how much I love it.

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Pretty good article, just about covers how I feel about Christmas :)

~Mooglets

Bristol University's Christian Union Bans Women From Speaking At Meetings


A university’s Christian society has banned women from speaking at events and teaching at meetings, unless they are accompanied by their husband, it has been revealed.

The Bristol University Christian Union (BUCU) had originally decided women would be allowed to teach at meetings after their international secretary resigned in protest, but the group has since changed its policy.

The Huffington Post UK has seen the email sent out by president Matt Oliver to all BUCU members which said: “It is ok for women to teach in any CU setting… However we understand that this is a difficult issue for some and so decided that women would not teach on their own at our weekly CU meetings, as the main speaker on our Bristol CU weekend away, or as our main speaker for mission weeks.

“But a husband and wife can teach together in these.”

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Read further, at the above link.

Sexism, misogyny, discrimination and eraser of LGBTQ peoples all in one fell swoop? Wow, the Bristol CU must be going for a medal.

~Mooglets

A Year in Jail for Not Believing in God?


In Kentucky, a homeland security law requires the state’s citizens to acknowledge the security provided by the Almighty God—or risk 12 months in prison.

The law and its sponsor, state representative Tom Riner, have been the subject of controversy since the law first surfaced in 2006, yet the Kentucky state Supreme Court has refused to review its constitutionality, despite clearly violating the First Amendment’s separation of church and state.
“This is one of the most egregiously and breathtakingly unconstitutional actions by a state legislature that I’ve ever seen,” said Edwin Kagin, the legal director of American Atheists’, a national organization focused defending the civil rights of atheists. American Atheists’ launched a lawsuit against the law in 2008, which won at the Circuit Court level, but was then overturned by the state Court of Appeals.
The law states, “The safety and security of the Commonwealth cannot be achieved apart from reliance upon Almighty God as set forth in the public speeches and proclamations of American Presidents, including Abraham Lincoln’s historic March 30, 1863, presidential proclamation urging Americans to pray and fast during one of the most dangerous hours in American history, and the text of President John F. Kennedy’s November 22, 1963, national security speech which concluded: “For as was written long ago: ‘Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.’”
The law requires that plaques celebrating the power of the Almighty God be installed outside the state Homeland Security building—and carries a criminal penalty of up to 12 months in jail if one fails to comply. The plaque’s inscription begins with the assertion, “The safety and security of the Commonwealth cannot be achieved apart from reliance upon Almighty God.”
Tom Riner, a Baptist minister and the long-time Democratic state representative, sponsored the law.
“The church-state divide is not a line I see,” Riner told The New York Timesshortly after the law was first challenged in court. “What I do see is an attempt to separate America from its history of perceiving itself as a nation under God.”
A practicing Baptist minister, Riner is solely devoted to his faith—even when that directly conflicts with his job as state representative. He has often been at the center of unconstitutional and expensive controversies throughout his 26 years in office. In the last ten years, for example, the state has spent more than $160,000 in string of losing court cases against the American Civil Liberties Union over the state’s decision to display the Ten Commandments in public buildings, legislation that Riner sponsored.
Although the Kentucky courts have yet to strike down the law, some judges have been explicit about its unconstitutionality.
“Kentucky’s law is a legislative finding, avowed as factual, that the Commonwealth is not safe absent reliance on Almighty God. Further, (the law) places a duty upon the executive director to publicize the assertion while stressing to the public that dependence upon Almighty God is vital, or necessary, in assuring the safety of the commonwealth,” wrote Judge Ann O’Malley Shake in Court of Appeals’ dissenting opinion. 
This rational was in the minority, however, as the Court of Appeals reversed the lower courts’ decision that the law was unconstitutional.
Last week, American Atheists submitted a petition to the U.S. Supreme Court to review the law.
Riner, meanwhile, continues to abuse the state representative’s office, turning it into a pulpit for his God-fearing message.
“The safety and security of the state cannot be achieved apart from recognizing our dependence upon God,” Riner recently t old Fox News.
“We believe dependence on God is essential. … What the founding fathers stated and what every president has stated, is their reliance and recognition of Almighty God, that’s what we’re doing,” he said.
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Excuse me, Kentucky? Seriously? 
~Mooglets

Bryan Fischer Believes Exorcisms Can Cure Homosexuality


‘FISCHER: —that using spiritual weapons of our warfare according to the New Testament can be effective. We know that people can get delivered from homosexual behavior. The former president of the American Psychological Association, Nathan Cummings —he’s seen that happen in his own private clinical practice. He’s seen people get free of homosexual behavior and change their sexual orientation, so it certainly is possible. There may be spiritual factors at work. If there are, then the power of the Gospel, the name of Jesus Christ, the power of the Holy Spirit can be of enormous help.’

There’s a video of the interview at the link.

~Mooglets